Score, Another Barge For Ironfleet
Posted by: Marlenus, in Salvage Notes, Today In IronfleetFirst combat sweep of the day. AC-ME seems to be having trouble making up its mind which new system it’s relocating into, or perhaps they are moving around a lot in an effort to avoid more trouble. So, I was on my way back to Isaziwa from a system where a lot of AC-ME folk were (AFK) last night, when I stumbled upon poor Aktala (again) mining alone in a Retriever mining barge in Oiniken.
At least it was quick:
2008.01.10 20:16:00
Victim: Aktala
Alliance: Independent Faction
Corp: AIHTD Mining and Trade group
Destroyed: Retriever
System: Oiniken
Security: 0.7
Damage Taken: 1725Involved parties:
Name: Marlenus (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.2
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
Ship: Manticore
Weapon: Caldari Navy Wrath Cruise Missile
Damage Done: 1725Destroyed items:
Expanded Cargohold II
Dropped items:
Strip Miner I, Qty: 2
Expanded Cargohold II
But then I made a regrettable mistake. I was targeting enemy drones, and the wreck, to blow them up, and I must have flailed the overview selection process, because as I was sending away one missile to each targeted item, I realized I’d just launched on Aktala’s pod.
That, I never meant to do. Aktala is a victim of her alliance leadership’s failure to clean up the mess made by one of the alliance members. I didn’t go looking for her, but when I found her while I was hunting AC-ME, I undertook to blow up her ship. I’ve never podded anybody before, and never planned to start with someone who had given me no offense. But, war is hell.
So I watched in modest horror for the many seconds of cruise missile flight time (I was out well past a hundred kilometers) waiting for the pod to warp away. It didn’t:
2008.01.10 20:17:00
Victim: Aktala
Alliance: Independent Faction
Corp: AIHTD Mining and Trade group
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Oiniken
Security: 0.7
Damage Taken: 339Involved parties:
Name: Marlenus (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.2
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
Ship: Manticore
Weapon: Caldari Navy Wrath Cruise Missile
Damage Done: 339
For what it’s worth (not very much, I fear) I sent her a note of apology, after.
I was able to retrieve the Tech II cargo expander from the wreck, but the strip miners wouldn’t fit in the space remaining in my cargo hold, so I had to blow them with the the wreck when I scuttled it.
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January 10th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
So lemme get this straight – you launched on a pod of someone you knew was AFK, but this was all the fault of some other alliance?
I would have thought that if you really were sorry, you’d pony up for the cost of the destroyed items as a sign of good faith.
January 10th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Er, and what is your interest, Don Brandon? You seem to be rather deliberately misreading my account. If that’s what you call “getting things straight” I’d hate to see the carnage when you get things confused.
Where in this story did I suggest anyone was AFK? A mining barge pilot typically has to be at the keyboard to transfer ore to the jet-can.
It was yesterday’s hauler-miner I would have thought was AFK, but their pod warped away promptly.
The fact that I launched on Aktala’s barge is, indeed partially the fault of HER alliance (not “some other alliance” as you say), for allowing one of their members to get them into a war and for taking no steps (that I am aware of) to try and end it. But of course, I declared the war — I’m hardly an innocent party either.
What I meant to suggest was that if I were a member of an alliance, and got blown up TWICE in a war that my alliance leadership could easily have made stop, I’d be a little bit pissed at my alliance leadership (while still being a lot pissed at the aggressor).
The pod is a different story. I never said anything about the pod destruction being anybody’s fault but my own. I fat-fingered the interface. Is there anybody who hasn’t? I’ve apologized for that, but I’m hardly going to pay reparations — this war is one-sided enough without that. In war, things go wrong, it’s pretty inevitable. Don’t like it, make it stop.
Paying for your enemy’s lost tonnage is just a stupid thing to do in wartime, no matter the circumstances under which it got blown.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
My interest is passing. I was looking for the website of another corp, stumbled upon this one and stayed for a read.
As for where in your story did you suggest anyone was afk, I got that impression in the first paragraph of your diatribe:
“So, I was on my way back to Isaziwa from a system where a lot of AC-ME folk were (AFK) last night, when I stumbled upon poor Aktala (again) mining alone in a Retriever mining barge in Oiniken.”
In fact, none of what you post makes a lot of sense. You contradict yourself all over the place: the example above; in your reply you say that the other alliance (you’re all other alliances to me seeing as I’m not in any of the groups you’ve mentioned) is at fault for the war, then say that you started the war in the first place.
The kicker is that in your reply you say that the Indy alliance “for allowing one of their members to get them into a war and for taking no steps (that I am aware of) to try and end it.”
Reading today’s post and the one entitled Back-channel diplomacy, it seems that you knew full well that the other alliance was engaged in diplomatic activity with you. You also say that you had come to a very tentative no-podding agreement with them, hardly the acts of an alliance trying to perpetuate a war.
Of course, the last sentence in your reply might lead a neutral observer to draw some rather interesting comclusions about your intellect. You say that paying for replacing lost tonnage is a stupid thing to do in wartime, yet the latest post on your blog says that you’ve ponied up for some implants for the person you podded while still formally under a wardec.
It’s a shame I’m not over in Caldari space at the moment, I’d like to have tangled with your fleet to see what happened for myself, then compare that reality with what you publish here.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Ah, I see, you’re deliberately misreading what you see, in an effort to be offensive.
Note (just by way of example) that I did not pay for the implants until after hostilities had ceased. You comprehended that — hence your use of the word “formally” — but you deliberately ignored it in order to craft the insult.
It’s a strange business, setting out to insult a total stranger whose blog you stumbled on by accident. I wonder what might have motivated you to do that?